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Post by Atrahasis on Sept 19, 2008 3:34:48 GMT -5
Re "The Paradise Syndrome" where Spock tries to phaser blast that asteroid. Sulu says "Phaser 1, firing!" and goes all the way up to "Phaser 4", and then he says "All phasers fired."
So I guess that's official!
"Aft phasers" are also canon, I guess they would be 5 and 6.
Yes, knowing this pleases me. ;D
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Post by montel on Oct 13, 2008 12:46:03 GMT -5
She also had 6 torpedo tubes, mentioned in "Journey To Babel" - Kirk tells Chekov to "fire tubes 2, 4 and 6 as (Orion) passes."
Could tubes 5 & 6 be the aft firing tubes seen in Ent: In a Mirrror Darkly?
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Post by Don Karnage on Oct 13, 2008 13:05:24 GMT -5
but in sfb books if the enterprise is the FCA, its only have 2 forward phaser and 4 forward torpedo tube.
hard to keep all the more or less canon stuff from the serie.
how many shuttle did the enterprise or constitution class have?
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Post by Atrahasis on Oct 13, 2008 17:25:43 GMT -5
She also had 6 torpedo tubes, mentioned in "Journey To Babel" - Kirk tells Chekov to "fire tubes 2, 4 and 6 as (Orion) passes." Could tubes 5 & 6 be the aft firing tubes seen in Ent: In a Mirrror Darkly? Here's a thought: If the ship had 4 phasers fwd and at least 2 aft (as mentioned in background bridge chatter), were the photon torpedo "tubes" actually the same as the phaser emitters, which would make it a total of 6 tubes? |
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Post by Atrahasis on Oct 13, 2008 17:28:48 GMT -5
but in sfb books if the enterprise is the FCA, its only have 2 forward phaser and 4 forward torpedo tube. hard to keep all the more or less canon stuff from the serie. how many shuttle did the enterprise or constitution class have? It had about 12 in TAS that were lined up along the sides of the hangar, but in TOS it had a total of at least 3 that were mentioned by name. |
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Post by Don Karnage on Oct 14, 2008 7:13:54 GMT -5
She also had 6 torpedo tubes, mentioned in "Journey To Babel" - Kirk tells Chekov to "fire tubes 2, 4 and 6 as (Orion) passes." Could tubes 5 & 6 be the aft firing tubes seen in Ent: In a Mirrror Darkly? Here's a thought: If the ship had 4 phasers fwd and at least 2 aft (as mentioned in background bridge chatter), were the photon torpedo "tubes" actually the same as the phaser emitters, which would make it a total of 6 tubes? i have notice that sometime the torpedo are fire from under the saucer and sometime just under the bridge, hard to know if it was because of where was the target or is it actually another torpedo tube? what happen if the torpedo and the phaser use the same place, well i don't see how the torpedo tube and phaser share the same place and fire the phaser when the torpedo is still inside the tube. anyway is they're anything kinda official about that? |
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Post by vipre on Oct 14, 2008 19:01:03 GMT -5
what happen if the torpedo and the phaser use the same place, well i don't see how the torpedo tube and phaser share the same place and fire the phaser when the torpedo is still inside the tube. I recall someone saying that the concept of a "physical" torpedo didn't come up until the Phase 2/TMP redesign or possibly ST:II. The TOS "photon torpedo" was probably originally intended as just a setting of the phaser emitters and the "Tubes" were what they called the individual capacitors that held the charges. One can either dig up what they can from the 60's and try to piece together what the original staff/designers/creators intended or retcon in a "modern" explanation based on the spin-offs as it's quite possible nothing post-TOS "works" the same way it originally did. |
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Post by Johanobesus on Oct 15, 2008 0:36:15 GMT -5
They likely didn't intend anything at all, or their intentions varied from episode to episode. In those days they cared much more about telling a good story than worrying over continuity or trying to figure out how everything worked.
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Post by vipre on Oct 15, 2008 1:13:24 GMT -5
They likely didn't intend anything at all, or their intentions varied from episode to episode. In those days they cared much more about telling a good story than worrying over continuity or trying to figure out how everything worked. That's what I was trying to get at. Attempting to figure out how many "physical" tubes the TOS ship had, where they were located and why they were located there based on the post-TMP explainations of how the torpedoes "work" while using TOS dialog is like nailing down pixie dust. |
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Post by Don Karnage on Oct 15, 2008 6:20:03 GMT -5
well here what we ca do: check all the episode of startrek and note where the torpedo and phaser are fire and how many. so we can see what would be more real as possible.  |
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Post by norsehound on Oct 15, 2008 12:26:47 GMT -5
Technically the Enterprise would have six phasers facing forward- there are two just above the bottom sensor, and two more on either side of the top on the primary hull (though I thought everyone knew this...). If we take SFB/SFC's arcs for canon, then it would be possible to fire all six phasers forward at the asteroid.
I won't believe in rear photon torpedoes/phasers until I see evidence of them on the physical model. Everything since TNG trek has taken liberties with how TMP/TOS ships are presented for the sake of theatrics.
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Post by Don Karnage on Oct 15, 2008 15:31:16 GMT -5
i think that it does have ventral phaser, but i never see it be use.
rear phaser well in startrek enterprise in the mirror universe we see them fire from the defiant, we could say that we never see the phaser on the saucer of the entreprise, for the tmp model we just have to view all the 6 statrek movies to see if we can spot rear phaser.
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Post by Atrahasis on Oct 15, 2008 22:05:42 GMT -5
Technically the Enterprise would have six phasers facing forward- there are two just above the bottom sensor, and two more on either side of the top on the primary hull (though I thought everyone knew this...). If we take SFB/SFC's arcs for canon, then it would be possible to fire all six phasers forward at the asteroid. I won't believe in rear photon torpedoes/phasers until I see evidence of them on the physical model. Everything since TNG trek has taken liberties with how TMP/TOS ships are presented for the sake of theatrics. Ah but the original model(s) never had anything that looked like phaser emitters even at what I refer to as "position #1" where it fired those blue beams all the time. |
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Post by Don Karnage on Oct 16, 2008 5:25:47 GMT -5
the tos model are no visible, so we don't know what it have.
the tmp are visible but we never see it be use, well those on the saucer yes, but the ventral one and maybe the rear one was use in any movies.
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Post by lurker on Oct 16, 2008 6:12:13 GMT -5
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